I'm a political beast. You should know that about me before I go any farther. I am deeply interested in politics and debating policy and learning about policy. On paper, I'm a liberal Democrat. I don't label myself as progressive, if only because I don't think our country has the money to be as progressive as some European countries are. I'm for separation of church and state, gay marriage, and environmental policies that reduce carbon emissions and encourage Americans to embrace green energy. Got all that? Okay, moving on.
I'm also a Pagan. I might not have all the hows and whys straightened out, but I am firmly in the earth-based religions column. One thing that I'm trying to do in my life is to live how my spirituality dictates, which is kinda hard, given that my spirituality isn't so much pinned down yet. It's something I've heard a lot of Christians talking about doing--living their lives for God or with God in mind. It's sometimes hard to do this as a Pagan, particularly if the best guideline for morality I've given myself is to try to follow the Golden Rule (which is in the Bible and Qur'an and Judaic and Hindu writings AND in the Wiccan Rede, but not so much to be found in Nature or glowing from the middle of my bonfire on the Solstices.) Because I revere Nature, I try to treat it well and I try to teach my children to treat it well, but...sigh. I should start writing some of this stuff down.
Anywho, this isn't about those wacky Christians and the crazy things they do or my bumbling attempts to figure out my spirituality. Instead, I've been thinking about how my spirituality informs my political life--and whether it should. The other day, I was reading Ramblings of a Domestic Goddess and finding myself doing fist pumps and pelvic thrusts at the dressing down she was giving two eejits discussing the evils of President Obama in a doctor's office. She was appalled at the lack of professionalism and in inimitable inannasstar fashion, let them know exactly what she thought about it.
After all the pumping and thrusting...ahem...perhaps I should rethink that one...after my celebrations, I started thinking about why Pagans don't use our political voices until we have to. Some of it, I'm sure, is visions of Salem dancing in our heads. I'm not trying to be funny--they're burning Qur'ans in Gainesville, Florida. It's frightening to see how far fundamentalist Christian whackjobs will go. To be an "out" Pagan is difficult at any point in time--frankly, I fear that if I came out during a political discussion and said, "Well, as a person who worships the earth, I have to say that your Hummer really chaps my ass, gas guzzler," nobody would take me seriously. Or worse, they'd be so focused on whether I was in league with Satan that they'd not pay attention to logic.
The other problem, I'm sure, is the diversity that exists within the Pagan community. Some of us are Wiccan. Some of us celebrate traditional Celtic holidays. Some of us worship trees. Some commune with faeries. Some deal with the Greek gods. (I'm leaving out the people like me, who smoosh it all together in a big wad and hope for the best.) The Christians and Jews who are active in politics (I'm singling these two groups out because they make up the majority) have got standardized religions which they share with many of their constituents. Leaning back on religious dictates to guide public policy is EASY for them, because they're talking about what people know.
I wonder if every Pagan suddenly decided to recognize, say, the Solstices and Equinoxes if it would make a difference. I mean, these are celestial events that most every "sect" of Paganism recognizes, right? If we all did that, if we all had something in common, would it make it easier for us to argue for cap and trade en masse?
Then again, not all Pagans are raging liberals like me. I once offended the heck out of a fellow Pagan with a post over on I'm Not Hannah. I wasn't TRYING to offend her, but her measured response to my admittedly heated (and slightly crazy) post brought me up short. I had never pictured a politically conservative Pagan before--the term "conservative" is naturally married to "Christian" in my head. It made me really reconsider some of my own biases to think about this.
And I'm not sure why it suddenly seems so important to identify myself as a Pagan when discussing the things that are politically important to me. After all, it drives me to the moon and back when a Christian does it. Is my religious belief somehow more important or relevant than a Christian's--and therefore a good basis for public policy? And if I don't want Christianity's moral guidelines to decide whether gay people have the right to marry, is it fair for me to use my Pagan belief in the Golden Rule as a reason for gay people to have that right? I'm a Christmas-celebrating Pagan--do I have the right to bitch about "In God We Trust" being on our legal currency? (I DON'T bitch about it, by the way. Just an example...)
I think, really, that this boils down once again (I say, wearily) to the fact that I am not comfortable being out of the broom closet. My political ideology is almost as important to me (and frankly, some days, MORE important to me) than my religious one, but it's the one I'm allowed to show in public. And when I'm arguing about something on Facebook, for example, I have to just swallow the assumption that I'm one of those crazy liberal Christians when it's thrown at my head.
Because, otherwise, my voice won't be as powerful.
I'm sorry for this rambling, hard to understand post. Just trying to make sense of it all. (And floundering, as usual...)
In other news, the New Moon this month is next Monday, the 9th. Anybody up for Meeting at the Water?
I love when people do fist pumps and pelvic thrusts after reading a post of mine. I'm getting all verklempt over here.
ReplyDeleteWhen I'm discussing politics, I almost never intermingle the discussion with my own personal spiritual beliefs (unless I happen to be speaking with a fellow Pagan) because one of my main arguments is ALWAYS seperation of church and state....so I would be shooting myself in the foot by proclaiming my Religion prior to a discussion about politics....Also, I can only handle bitch slapping someone over one topic at a time....my other hand is busy planted firmly on my hip.
I'm a firm believer that public policy should never be based on religious or spiritual reasoning. Once you start going down that slippery slope, you end up with somebody's church in the driver's seat. Who is to say that one church is entitled to rule and another one isn't? Public policy can be founded on many other perfectly good reasons without dragging religious beliefs into it.
ReplyDeleteAmen & amen.
ReplyDeleteI feel too, that it's very important to keep church & state separated. I desire it for myself just as I desire it for every other religious person on the planet. I don't want their religious beliefs dictating or restricting my freedoms, and vis versa. As important as I believe Freedom of Religion is, I think it's equally if not more important to have Freedom FROM Religion.
As for the broom closet... This one is more difficult for me, as like you said, once they hear "Pagan" or "Witch", people spend more time trying to figure out if I'm a hellish minion than listening to anything I have to say. Sigh...
I am selectively out of my broom closet, and coming out more & more. I don't go around announcing my religious beliefs, but I'm not hesitant to say when asked. I'm not out to my immediate family, as they're mostly convinced that Paganism & Witchcraft are rest stops on the highway to Hell...
But! Should they ever ask, I'll not lie to them, and hopefully the way I live is testament enough that I'm not one of the Devil's little minions, but rather a dirt worshiping, tree hugging, nature loving Pagan. ^-^
I am having trouble formulating what I want to say, so I am going to say that I understand what you are saying completely. I personally had considered even becoming actively involved in local politics, like running for an office, however I refuse to deny my religious beliefs and I knew that it would become an issue.
ReplyDeleteI am mostly out as a pagan. My family knows, my boyfriend's family knows and several of my co-workers know. I do not necessarily volunteer this information but will always answer honestly when asked.
Oh... and I will be there at the water.
Thanks for stopping by my blog today. Liked stopping by to read this post.
ReplyDeleteIt's always nice to hear a different point of view. It helps to stregthen or alter our own.
By the way, how'd you know I drive a Hummer? lol.
I can not help but giggle a bit over your post. I say amen woman... I myself have to be very careful how I speak in regards to my political views. living smack dab in the middle of Oklahoma, there are so many things that I have to be careful to voice yet me and my big mouth sometimes wants to shout it from every fricking rooftop here.
ReplyDeleteI understand the ignorance of many who spout things off before they seem to even think of what they may be allowing to come out of their mouths. Yet I have come to realize that thinking may not be one of the functions they are equipped with...
Yes I am a bit heated here. I guess it is because although I do not see the reason that ones beliefs of spirituality should have to come into play with ones political beliefs (yet understand that it does) I think that everyone has the right to speak their mind. And although some of the rhetoric that comes from some is pure silliness to me, it is their right. Then why don't I have the same freedom without being condemed.
I have been struggling for some time on how to incorporate my spirituality and my political view together via mother moon and come to realize that possibly I can't. What a shame. I say keep going Hannah, speak your voice and speak it as loud as you wish, regardless if those around you do not agree or understand.
PS: sorry for the rambling.. (you hit a bit of a soapbox for me...)
I love this post. I hope everyone who reads it really digests the essence of it. We are who we are. Every being, animal, plant, rock, fossil, star, cloud, whatever is made from the same elements.....but that is where the similarity and shared opinion ends.
ReplyDeleteI am a crone...really I am. I have been on the other side and been a Christian..not only that I was on staff at a church. I am and have been a practicing (that being the optimum word) pagan for 11 years now. I have experienced the lack of understanding from both sides of the other person's perspective. Confused yet? In my experience I have never met anyone who is willing not to have a prejudged notion of Christian or Pagan or Buddhist or Hindu or Moslem or being an Aetheist. If you ad politics into the fray, yeah, kinda more of a mess.
I am not trying to be a pessimist but a realist. I am an out of the broom closet but not wearing a t shirt with a declaration on it citizen of this country I love but am confused by. The Olde Bagg
I so completely agree with everything you and every one else has said here. I am a liberal democrat that lives down the street from the biggest conservative a*@ in the world....Pat Robertson.....so I think that says it all.....
ReplyDeleteI will join you at the water tonight, say a healing prayer to Gaia.
ReplyDeleteClearly I'm more out of the closet than I realised, as occasionally people ask my advice on all sorts of matters from being cursed to what the future may hold! Yet, to my mind, I'm fairly conservative and private, obviously I'm mistaken!
Giggling over your post! I totally feel you on the shock ... being a card carrying liberal myself.
ReplyDeleteDialogue is a good thing, and I think it just depends on the person to whom your speaking. Some people are not interested in what you think or have to say, so they're just a waste of breath. Others are completely able to at least respect that you think differently, and that is where the magick happens.
I work in an extremely conservative environment, am completely out of the broom closet, and for the most part always have been. There are some people I will discuss it with, and some I won't. I get the question, "Is that a Star of David?" a lot. They know it's not a freaking Star of David, they're just a gossipy bunch of biddies looking for their latest fodder. I tell them, "No, it's a 5 pointed star, I think they're pretty". Answer: "Oh"